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Goku and Vegeta, SSJ 2 Masters?
Topic Started: Jan 4 2013, 04:16 AM (948 Views)
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Does Goku and Vegeta having full access to SSJ 2 mean that they mastered the form? Couldn't Ghan only use it if he had severe anger? Does that mean he did not master it?
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i can kinda see goku mastering it cause he discovered ssj3 , which i guess he might need to master ssj2 first

so maybe , gohan never mastered it cause he barely spent anytime in the form but was still strong due to rage and

with vegeta maybe once again he had 7 years to achieve and master it so i dunno
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Yeah it's tough to tell, because nobody showed signs of mastering it like they mastered SSJ. Although did Vegeta even show that he mastered SSJ?
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Makes no sense for Vegeta not to after seeing Goku and Gohan do it.

The signs for mastering MSSJ are having similar eyes to whatever you have at base level and a slight difference in aura.
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Yeah but Vegeta always has SSJ eyes.and what is the aura difference
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The aura difference goes from flame- like and uncontrolled to a more stable flickering aura.
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So more like the image of Vegeta in my sig?
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I like to entertain the thought of MSSJ2. It makes sense that they'd go for it after the success of mastering the fist transformation.
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Jan 4 2013, 04:22 AM
Yeah but Vegeta always has SSJ eyes.and what is the aura difference
I know, that's why the best way to determine it is to just look at the fact that he saw Goku and Gohan do it and instantly deduced why.

Hybrid got the aura difference.

I like to think they did master SSJ2, but there's no solid evidence.
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The only evidence I can think of is that they can tap into SSJ 2 whenever they need without rage.
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Jan 4 2013, 04:34 AM
The only evidence I can think of is that they can tap into SSJ 2 whenever they need without rage.
Not much evidence, seeing as how that's happened to the regular SSJs every time after the initial transformation.
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I just don't get how to explain Gohan then. Why would he forget how to use it.
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(If considering that the Budokai SSJ2 scene was retconned), it could be that he's never used it after the initial transformation, and it's been 7 years....Goku said he had to get used to SSJ a bit on Yardrat or something, now that I think back.
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well i dunno

goku agaisnt freeza could transform freely

he actually goes base when he thinks freeza has lost , then ssj again when freeza tries to attack him again

and herms has nothing on goku saying it took time to use ssj , maybe its in the manga dunno
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Jan 4 2013, 04:42 AM
(If considering that the Budokai SSJ2 scene was retconned), it could be that he's never used it after the initial transformation, and it's been 7 years....Goku said he had to get used to SSJ a bit on Yardrat or something, now that I think back.
Kyouks what do you mean by recommend?
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